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troop surge in iraq raises some serious questions about his judgment on foreign policy. >> you saw the hearing. you know his record. are you going to support him for defense secretary? >> i will see the answers to his questions but i have grave concerns. >> grave concerns? >> yes. >> would it be fair to say you're leaning against voting for him? >> i think that would be fair. >> both criticisms follow a blistering attack on saturday by former vice president dick cheney. the performance now of barack obama as he staffs up the national security team for a second term is dismal. frankly, what he has appointed are second rate people. >>> there's a new u.s. commander in afghanistan in what could be the final reshuffling of american leadership before coalition troops are withdrawn on schedule by the end of next year. general joseph dumford took over on saturday. a four star marine officer replaces general john allen. he's been nominated to lead nato forces in europe. general dunford will play a leading role in how many american troops will stay in that country post 2014. meanwhile, former de
troop surge in iraq raises some serious questions about his judgment on foreign policy. >> you saw the hearing. you know his record. are you going to support him for defense secretary? >> i will see the answers to his questions but i have grave concerns. >> grave concerns? >> yes. >> would it be fair to say you're leaning against voting for him? >> i think that would be fair. >> both criticisms follow a blistering attack on saturday by former vice...
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>> he will talk about foreign policy. forbes policy will not be the thrust of the speech. jobs, the economy will be. but when he talks about foreign policy, it's a pretty safe bet north korea will be on his mind. the president set to give that address at 9:00 eastern time. reports indicate that he may do a little bit more finger pointing this time than reaching across the aisle. congressman adam kinzinger, a republican from ill. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> we're getting previews about how the president may sound tonig, glen thrush of politico says don't expect anything like the call for peaceful collaboration that addressed the joint congress in 2009. >> month of the same. i think this is an opportunity. the president has an amazing opportunity to call republicans and democrats together to say both sides have to accept things they don't want in order to accept the problems in the country and for future generations. that's what's missing, the discussion of what happens next with the next generation of americans and, unfortunately, to descend bac
>> he will talk about foreign policy. forbes policy will not be the thrust of the speech. jobs, the economy will be. but when he talks about foreign policy, it's a pretty safe bet north korea will be on his mind. the president set to give that address at 9:00 eastern time. reports indicate that he may do a little bit more finger pointing this time than reaching across the aisle. congressman adam kinzinger, a republican from ill. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me....
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>> dick cheney, by the way, had choice words for the president's foreign policy team. i'm not sure i agree with that. in "the new york times," a great must-read, quietly killing a consumer watchdog. it's how the republicans are just doing everything they can not to have the consumer financial protection bureau that was created by elizabeth warren under president obama actually function because it would keep them, quite frankly, from being able to get their money from all their donors on wall street. and they do not want to lose the people who helped them out. so they want to make sure that the consumer suffers so that they can gain politically. it's a good one. take a look at it. coming up -- >> we're also going to talk about nancy pelosi saying we don't have a spending problem, and the problem with medicare is not medicare. we've got a lot to talk about straight ahead. >> gail collins of "the new york times" joins us straight ahead. >> she's got a great column. >> i love it. you're watching "morning joe" brewed by starbucks. humans. even when we cross our t's and dot
>> dick cheney, by the way, had choice words for the president's foreign policy team. i'm not sure i agree with that. in "the new york times," a great must-read, quietly killing a consumer watchdog. it's how the republicans are just doing everything they can not to have the consumer financial protection bureau that was created by elizabeth warren under president obama actually function because it would keep them, quite frankly, from being able to get their money from all their...
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and there's also this issue of our foreign policy with canada. canadians are going to go crazy, legitimately crazy if we as their partner say no-go, and what does that mean? >> the problem originally was nebraska. >> right, so the other problem is the sierra club and some of the folks, originally didn't like the path of nebraska. now they don't like just the broad idea of taking oil from the greenhouse, emits more gases than greenhouse gases. >> all right. tomorrow on "morning joe," former secretary of state madeleine albright will be with us here on set. and up next, disgraced ex-governor mark sanford launches a sympathy tour in preparation for a run at congress. we'll show you his latest ad, next on "morning joe." revolutionizing an industry can be a tough act to follow, but at xerox we've embraced a new role. working behind the scenes to provide companies with services... like helping hr departments manage benefits and pensions for over 11 million employees. reducing document costs by up to 30%... and processing $421 billion dollars in account
and there's also this issue of our foreign policy with canada. canadians are going to go crazy, legitimately crazy if we as their partner say no-go, and what does that mean? >> the problem originally was nebraska. >> right, so the other problem is the sierra club and some of the folks, originally didn't like the path of nebraska. now they don't like just the broad idea of taking oil from the greenhouse, emits more gases than greenhouse gases. >> all right. tomorrow on...
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drone strikes must be consonant with smart foreign policy. this means the strike is only when it is near certainty the target is a highly dangerous terrorist that the strike is likely to succeed and that collateral damage will be minimal and there is no viable alternative. such considerations should rule out signature strikes which target people who are behaving in ways that resemble how terrori terrorists tend to behave. the standards i am arguing for here would lead to fewer drone strikes. there is a danger that policy can be too restrictive makeing impanel what should be difficult but the process that currently exists for authorizing drone attacks lacks sufficient controls especially when the targets are u.s. citizens. >> we spent too much time twisting ourselves in knots saying the terrorists are about to attack the so-called imminent standard, honest answers we never know. we don't know when terrorists are about to strike. we have to have a whole different set of criteria. the department of justice memorandum is really shoddy work. we sh
drone strikes must be consonant with smart foreign policy. this means the strike is only when it is near certainty the target is a highly dangerous terrorist that the strike is likely to succeed and that collateral damage will be minimal and there is no viable alternative. such considerations should rule out signature strikes which target people who are behaving in ways that resemble how terrori terrorists tend to behave. the standards i am arguing for here would lead to fewer drone strikes....
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you've covered foreign policy in washington for a long time. can you put this into some kind of perspective, historically? how rare is it for this to happen to a president's nominee? >> well, this is very rare. i mean, it's unprecedented. i covered the john tower nomination. he was the former chairman of the committee of the armed services committee. and that was also something that john mccain brought up yesterday. that's part of the grudge match. he wasn't filibustered because the administration just lost that one. but this filibuster with a recess permits the opposition to keep upping the ante. i mean, one of the things that you and joe are pointing out here is that every time chuck hagel turns a corner, they're flowing something else up there. benghazi wasn't even on his watch. they used it to try to get leverage. to try to get more information about what the president did on that night. did he go to bed? was he calling the pentagon? who was in charge? something that they could have asked in another context. they did get a letter from the w
you've covered foreign policy in washington for a long time. can you put this into some kind of perspective, historically? how rare is it for this to happen to a president's nominee? >> well, this is very rare. i mean, it's unprecedented. i covered the john tower nomination. he was the former chairman of the committee of the armed services committee. and that was also something that john mccain brought up yesterday. that's part of the grudge match. he wasn't filibustered because the...
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we're fans of chuck, i like chuck, like his foreign policy. he's a realist, not a neo con and he turned in one of the worst performances on capitol hill. i will be the first to admit it. could have been better said the washington redskins when they lost 73-0. could have been better and i think chuck will be the first to admit that. are you going to support him? >> yes, i am. >> why? >> he's real. really real. he's been through war, been on the front line and been wounded. i asked him is there anything you can give me to doubt you wouldn't do anything to defend this country and america. >> you're talking about iran and -- >> i'm talking everything. he gave me a very satisfactory answer. his actions of spoken for that. also on israel. we were concerned about israel and iran. he gave two very strong answers on that. i have no doubt he would do everything he can to protect our country and fight for it and draw basically strong with our allies with israel. i feel comfortable with him and i hope he would be confirmed. >> you think he will be? >> i t
we're fans of chuck, i like chuck, like his foreign policy. he's a realist, not a neo con and he turned in one of the worst performances on capitol hill. i will be the first to admit it. could have been better said the washington redskins when they lost 73-0. could have been better and i think chuck will be the first to admit that. are you going to support him? >> yes, i am. >> why? >> he's real. really real. he's been through war, been on the front line and been wounded. i...
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i think there were two sentences on foreign policy. i think you have to say more about the position of the united states and the world. >> the middle east is in flames right now. you should probably talk about it. >> you have to be self-aware. and i think of chris christie, who i believe, unless i remember incorrectly, turned it down. >> he's a smart man, chris christie, and he's in the 70s. >> he turned this one down? >> not this one. >> i have a question that perhaps john heilemann can answer. marco rubio's a smart guy, an attractive guy, an articulate guy with a terrific life story. why is it that in an age in the past few months when the republicans have been talking about broadening the base of the party, speaking to a larger audience, why is it that he spent so much time last night seemingly preaching to the choir rather than talking to the country? >> that's a good point. >> well, you know, mike, i think he points out the awkward intraparty politics that the republicans now face. you know, you have a party that does need to broa
i think there were two sentences on foreign policy. i think you have to say more about the position of the united states and the world. >> the middle east is in flames right now. you should probably talk about it. >> you have to be self-aware. and i think of chris christie, who i believe, unless i remember incorrectly, turned it down. >> he's a smart man, chris christie, and he's in the 70s. >> he turned this one down? >> not this one. >> i have a question...
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the therapy of the house foreign affairs committee just weighed in. he says the obama administration must replace its failed north korean policy with one that is energetic, creative and focused on crippling the kim regime's military capabilities through stringent sanctions. senior foreign affairs correspondent greg palkot has the late nest london. you moved from the pope's story to this world crisis now, greg. >> yeah, crazy week. the world, in fact, got a bit more dangerous overnight. u.n. officials, i was speaking to a few minutes ago, confirmed to me that they believe the north korea has tested yet another nuclear device. but most importantly, they tell me this device is twice as powerful as the one they detonated in 2009. they base that on seismic measurements they're taking from the test site. north korea today claiming they have tested a smaller, more sophisticated device, which means, according to my contacts in north korea and korea that i've been speaking to, this could be better put on top of a missile. remember, in december, north korea had
the therapy of the house foreign affairs committee just weighed in. he says the obama administration must replace its failed north korean policy with one that is energetic, creative and focused on crippling the kim regime's military capabilities through stringent sanctions. senior foreign affairs correspondent greg palkot has the late nest london. you moved from the pope's story to this world crisis now, greg. >> yeah, crazy week. the world, in fact, got a bit more dangerous overnight....
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true libertarian would say protect the borders don't have any foreign policy at all. that is tough to win anytime soon. i'm evolving on something. i've listened to what is important. making the bigger tent. making sure the republican party says, you know, more people -- >> bob: are you coming out for prostitution? >> eric: no. i'm coming out for chris christie. i'm back on chris christie again. >> dana: what? >> eric: we need someone with personality. >> greg: we said big tent. not big pants. >> eric: i like that he says what is on his mind and don't worry about the issues that may be a problem to carson and maybe rand paul. >> bob: i think he would be a stronger candidate than rubio. certainly a general election. >> greg: i want to get dana in this. do you have anything intelligent to add to this? >> dana: people reject calling themselveses a republican. they don't want to call themselves democrat or say conservative or liberal. there are appealing characteristics with a libertarian to speak to people how they feel about themselves so people take another look at it.
true libertarian would say protect the borders don't have any foreign policy at all. that is tough to win anytime soon. i'm evolving on something. i've listened to what is important. making the bigger tent. making sure the republican party says, you know, more people -- >> bob: are you coming out for prostitution? >> eric: no. i'm coming out for chris christie. i'm back on chris christie again. >> dana: what? >> eric: we need someone with personality. >> greg: we...
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policy in defense during these nomination hearings. whether it's hagel or brennan or whatever. they're just taking cheap shots all over the place and they're not having a serious discussion. >> what -- >> in other words, if dick cheney wants to get in the ball game and have a really serious -- >> you raise this, i have to answer your question. what is the burr in lindsey graham's saddle? >> well -- >> why is he putting a hold on hagel? >> he's not going to put a hold on hagel. that's just -- he's just grabbing his ankles on the way out the door. hagel is going to be confirmed. it's a done deal. john mccain has blessed it. john mccain said he gave the committee enough -- said hagel gave the committee enough information i'm not going to hold him up on benghazi. i think lindsey graham is there to be the last annoying guy to make sure that hagel keeps whatever promises he made behind the scenes -- >> howard, does this -- >> to carl levin and -- >> the cisco kid may have handed 9 okay but poncho is still fighting the war. thank you, howard
policy in defense during these nomination hearings. whether it's hagel or brennan or whatever. they're just taking cheap shots all over the place and they're not having a serious discussion. >> what -- >> in other words, if dick cheney wants to get in the ball game and have a really serious -- >> you raise this, i have to answer your question. what is the burr in lindsey graham's saddle? >> well -- >> why is he putting a hold on hagel? >> he's not going to...
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policy and their disagreements on it. >> i can tell you there were a lot of reporters that were answering to be on this trip to brussels. >> the reasons that are being shown to hold up this nomination, it's not about afghanistan, it's not about a draw john -- >> that's not true. >> in all fairness, what you just mentioned very parochial reasons by the republican party to make this into a dance because chuck hagel didn't like john mccain -- >> there are policy issues here, let's not forget. they did talk about his refusal to denounce hesbola as a terrorist organization. those are legitimate policy concerns which call into question his ability to lead the defense department. >> i want to move into another topic. one of your former boss be, mr. rove. it seems as if republicans are acting what's in their own interest, whether they like the rove project or don't like the rove project. if this works, this looks like this is going to be a very ugly public process in the short-term. is that fair? >> it looks like it's going to be ugly but karl rove has every right, just like the club for growth o
policy and their disagreements on it. >> i can tell you there were a lot of reporters that were answering to be on this trip to brussels. >> the reasons that are being shown to hold up this nomination, it's not about afghanistan, it's not about a draw john -- >> that's not true. >> in all fairness, what you just mentioned very parochial reasons by the republican party to make this into a dance because chuck hagel didn't like john mccain -- >> there are policy...
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we are still too close to all of this in time to know if what some say was the biggest foreign policy deception and disaster in modern u.s. history will define its generation of leaders too. whether this is going to be the first line in the obituaries of the men and women who caused that war. but if what we went through ten years ago did not change us as a country, if we do not understand what happened and adapt as a country to resist it, then history says we are doomed to repeat it again. here is what happened. >>> the people of the united states and our friends and allies will not live at the mercy of an outlaw regime that threatens the peace with weapons of mass murder. >> my belief is we will in fact be greeted as liberators. >> there is a lot of money to pay for this that doesn't have to be u.s. taxpayer money, and i starts with the assets of the iraqi people. >> you go to war with the army you have, not the army you might want or wish to have. >> the search is under way for those who are behind these evil acts. i have directed the full resources of our intelligence and law enfor
we are still too close to all of this in time to know if what some say was the biggest foreign policy deception and disaster in modern u.s. history will define its generation of leaders too. whether this is going to be the first line in the obituaries of the men and women who caused that war. but if what we went through ten years ago did not change us as a country, if we do not understand what happened and adapt as a country to resist it, then history says we are doomed to repeat it again. here...
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he tells "foreign policy magazine" my position right now is that i want an answer to the question. that question totally unrelated to chuck hagel as defense secretary is what president obama was doing during the benghazi attack. hagel remains in limbo, as does defense secretary leon panetta, who isn't exactly sure when he will be able to return to his california walnut groves. >> this is, i believe, my final press conference here at the pentagon briefing room. there are moments when i thought i was part of the last act of an italian opera. you're not sure exactly when it would end, and when the fat lady would sing. >> for now the only certainty is much more congressional uncertainty. joy, does leon panetta need a shirt that says "i survived a chuck hagel filibuster and all i got was this lousy t-shirt?" just when he thinks it can't get worse, it's actually seemingly gotten worse. >> this is insane. i mean, last night i went through, and i was looking at the george w. bush cabinet nominations. none of which were filibustered. just for fun. just because i knew we were talking about i
he tells "foreign policy magazine" my position right now is that i want an answer to the question. that question totally unrelated to chuck hagel as defense secretary is what president obama was doing during the benghazi attack. hagel remains in limbo, as does defense secretary leon panetta, who isn't exactly sure when he will be able to return to his california walnut groves. >> this is, i believe, my final press conference here at the pentagon briefing room. there are moments...
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policy that -- items on his agenda. i thought the way that he dealt with the difference between his domestic policy call for gun violence and his -- his call on immigration was really, really notable. particularly because those are the two things in the administration now. this was the rallying moment of the state of the union was this very dramatic crescendo around gun violence when he talked about the victims of some of the mass shootings. >> senators of both parties are working together on tough new laws to prevent anyone from buying guns for resale to criminals. each of these proposals deserve as vote in congress. one of those we lost was a young girl named nadia pendleton. he was 15 years old. she loved figure newtons and lip gloss. she was a majorette. she was so good to her friends that they all thought they were her best friend. just three weeks ago she was here in washington with her classmates perfect forming for her country at my inauguration. and a week later, she was shot and killed in a chicago park after
policy that -- items on his agenda. i thought the way that he dealt with the difference between his domestic policy call for gun violence and his -- his call on immigration was really, really notable. particularly because those are the two things in the administration now. this was the rallying moment of the state of the union was this very dramatic crescendo around gun violence when he talked about the victims of some of the mass shootings. >> senators of both parties are working...
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but do they like the president's foreign policy? no. so these things kind of blend but generally you could say that for national security republicans, these two nominees, brennan on drones, for example, the use of drones, these nominees become proxies for policies they either question or they don't like. >> and moving forward, we're moving into this second term and the kind of makeup of congress is relatively speaking the same. how much do you think this will impact this hold on nominees, impact the relationship between republicans and democrats? it it can't get much worse. >> the white house isn't happy over hagel. they believe it's petty to hold him up when they believe he's going to eventually get confirmed. so they are not happy about it. republicans need to work with the white house on issues like immigration, for example, will this make for bad blood? yes. will it hold up immigration reform if it's in the interest of both parties to do it, probably not. i think the person who gets affected by this, quite honestly, is chuck hagel h
but do they like the president's foreign policy? no. so these things kind of blend but generally you could say that for national security republicans, these two nominees, brennan on drones, for example, the use of drones, these nominees become proxies for policies they either question or they don't like. >> and moving forward, we're moving into this second term and the kind of makeup of congress is relatively speaking the same. how much do you think this will impact this hold on nominees,...
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this trip undoubtedly would help to burnish his foreign policy credentials. 2016 though a long ways away but there will be a lot of attention paid to this trip, craig, because there is so much speculation whether or not rubio is going to throw his hat into the ring in 2016. >> kristen welker frequently draws the short straw, good to see you, thank you. >> reporter: all the tough assignments, thanks, craig. >>> feel like you need a vacation? so do your lawmakers aparentally. thursday republicans blocked voting former nebraska senator chuck hagel into the defense post he's nominated for in president obama's cabinet and yesterday they left town for nine days. joining me now jake sherman, congressional reporter, molly bald, national political reporter at "the atlantic." molly, today's "new york times" california democrat barbara boxer likened the block that republicans like texas senator ted cruz have put on chuck hagel to mccarthyism. what was the point of prolonging this hagel vote until after everyone reconvenes? >> well, i think that republicans started out with some legitimate questions
this trip undoubtedly would help to burnish his foreign policy credentials. 2016 though a long ways away but there will be a lot of attention paid to this trip, craig, because there is so much speculation whether or not rubio is going to throw his hat into the ring in 2016. >> kristen welker frequently draws the short straw, good to see you, thank you. >> reporter: all the tough assignments, thanks, craig. >>> feel like you need a vacation? so do your lawmakers aparentally....